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Generate data with jitter
Feb 17th, 2009, 6:53pm
 
Hi all,

It there a way to generate input data stream with the effect of jitter.. I am currently running with Spectre..

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Re: Generate data with jitter
Reply #1 - Feb 17th, 2009, 7:57pm
 
What kind of simulation are you aiming to do? The answer is somewhat dependent on that - it may be that a simple small-signal noise source is sufficient (if doing, say, pnoise analysis) - or you may need a larger-signal source for doing transient. Or you may be doing transient noise?

I think some more details are needed before an answer can be given.

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Reply #2 - Feb 17th, 2009, 9:55pm
 
I am trying to do stressed-eye simulation.. It is for high speed digital communication..
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Reply #3 - Feb 18th, 2009, 12:59am
 
I'm not familiar with a "stressed eye" simulation. I've found a few casual references to it from a google search, but didn't have time to research it fully to understand what you mean (I can guess, but I'd sooner know exactly what you mean).

Can you point me at some references so I can understand precisely what you're trying to do? Or if not, explain it here?

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Reply #4 - Feb 18th, 2009, 10:38pm
 
In optical communication, the receiver signal is corrupted. Stressed-eye diagram is the eye diagram acquire by the worse case input signal that is likely to happen in the system.
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Reply #5 - Feb 19th, 2009, 6:13am
 
littlepig wrote on Feb 18th, 2009, 10:38pm:
In optical communication, the receiver signal is corrupted. Stressed-eye diagram is the eye diagram acquire by the worse case input signal that is likely to happen in the system.
What type of jitter do you want to realize ?

http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/ads2008/ccsrc/ads2008/VtPRBS_(Time-d...
http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/ads2008/examples/SignalIntegrity/VtP...

You can create PRBS with jitters similar to the above by Verilog-A.
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Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2009, 9:09am
 
Thanks for the help..
Is there any guide to write it in VerilogA? I am not familiar with VerilogA..
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Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2009, 2:05pm
 
littlepig wrote on Feb 19th, 2009, 9:09am:
Is there any guide to write it in VerilogA? I am not familiar with VerilogA..
See http://www.designers-guide.org/VerilogAMS/

And the followings are useful although they are VHDL-AMS.
http://www.designers-guide.org/Modeling/JTOL_rev1.0.pdf
http://www.designers-guide.org/Modeling/fc_jtol_src_ns.vhd
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Reply #8 - Feb 19th, 2009, 5:00pm
 
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Reply #9 - Feb 19th, 2009, 6:12pm
 
You might also want to take a look at the models that generate jitter in http://www.designers-guide.org/Analysis/PLLnoise+jitter.pdf

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