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Message started by neoflash on Nov 14th, 2017, 4:49pm

Title: Trade off on using SC DAC inside CT sigma-delta ADC
Post by neoflash on Nov 14th, 2017, 4:49pm

There is a technique that people use to reduce jitter sensitivity in CT sigma delta ADC.

As shown in the figure, a SC DAC used for feedback.

What is the price paid for choosing this approach?

One issue I can think of is, the instantaneous kick of SC circuit to the integrator might be a problem limiting linearity.

Any comments?

Neo

Title: Re: Trade off on using SC DAC inside CT sigma-delta ADC
Post by Frank_Heart on Nov 17th, 2017, 12:17am

Hi, Neo,

 I would suggest you to read the book :

 Understanding Delta-Sigma Data Converters, 2nd Edition

 http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1119258278.html

 They have detailed discussions on SC-DAC (page 328), and explain why it is not popular.

  "In summary, while the SC feedback DAC is an intuitively appealing idea for combating clock jitter, it presents many practical implementation challenges. For one, the linearity needed of the first integrator is greatly increased due to the high peak-to-average ratio of the feedback waveform. Next, the inherent anti-aliasing feature, the hallmark of continuous-time SD modulation, is limited to about 20dB".

  BTW, if anyone have an intuitive way to understand "the inherent anti-aliasing feature, the hallmark of continuous-time SD modulation, is limited to about 20dB" in SC-DAC SDM, please share.

-Frank

Title: Re: Trade off on using SC DAC inside CT sigma-delta ADC
Post by neoflash on Nov 20th, 2017, 1:49pm

This is helpful. Thanks.

I am also working on understanding the intrinsic anti-aliasing nature of CT sdm now.


Frank_Heart wrote on Nov 17th, 2017, 12:17am:
Hi, Neo,

 I would suggest you to read the book :

 Understanding Delta-Sigma Data Converters, 2nd Edition

 http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1119258278.html

 They have detailed discussions on SC-DAC (page 328), and explain why it is not popular.

  "In summary, while the SC feedback DAC is an intuitively appealing idea for combating clock jitter, it presents many practical implementation challenges. For one, the linearity needed of the first integrator is greatly increased due to the high peak-to-average ratio of the feedback waveform. Next, the inherent anti-aliasing feature, the hallmark of continuous-time SD modulation, is limited to about 20dB".

  BTW, if anyone have an intuitive way to understand "the inherent anti-aliasing feature, the hallmark of continuous-time SD modulation, is limited to about 20dB" in SC-DAC SDM, please share.

-Frank


Title: Re: Trade off on using SC DAC inside CT sigma-delta ADC
Post by achilles on Dec 13th, 2017, 11:22pm

Hi Frank_Heart,

The same book has a different explanation on anti-aliasing feature in the appendix under the heading LPTV systems. I suggest you take a look at it. There is a very clear explanation as to why SC DACs perform badly in that regard.

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